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Borked Pseudo Mailed
2008-10-22 15:40:00 UTC
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From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories.gay
Subject: Gay Bikers
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:01:42 -0500

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"The Lovely Ms. Deborah" aka "SWMBO'd":

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Karen
2008-10-22 21:27:30 UTC
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says...
Post by Borked Pseudo Mailed
From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories.gay
Subject: Gay Bikers
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:01:42 -0500
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BWAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
AAAAAACK!!! What an ugly, old, fat pig! And she's 55 years old?
She lies about her age; besides she's aged TWENTY years in the 4+ years
she's had Gilmar around. He destroys every woman who lets him into her
life. I feel sorry for her. She is so desperate to have a "man" in her
life that she has settled for him. If she had any self-esteem at ALL,
she's lost it ALL now, thanks to that toxic fucker she has taken in.
She can't be milked quite dry yet or he'd have kicked her to the curb
and moved on to his next "victim".

He keeps claiming that I'm so *old* and *ugly*. He's never seen me, nor
a current picture. I am not ASHAMED of my AGE....I'm PROUD of it and I
still look plenty good. I doubt he'll ever see 70, but if he does, I
hope he has Alzheimer's and ALS. Meanwhile my health is quite good,
considering what I have to keep ahead of.... And that makes me a WINNER
and a SURVIVOR.

For sure, poor old "Deb" isn't likely to make 70. She's got a LOT of
mileage on her since she left Tennessee. <g> She's pretty much
destined now for a bad ending. He's got her brainwashed and she
probably can't get away from him now. It's sad.
BWAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
No wonder John Gilmer was advertising for another sucker...
He's been ready for fresh meat for quite awhile now, but his luck with
"wimmen" is running out... Maybe he should try again with the rich
Betina. He didn't play his cards right with her and let her get away.
I wasn't the first one with "monies" who cut bait and got away from him
before getting reeled in. When she sobered up, she wanted nothing more
to do with him.
BWAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
She looks at least 85...
Notice all the gray hair...she hasn't bleached her hair in a LONG time.
She just doesn't seem to CARE now about her appearance; she did somewhat
at first. When she looks at him, she probably wonders why in hell she
should care anymore what SHE looks like. She looked like an old whore
at his mother's B-Day party. The poor old woman (and her lovely
daughters) had to be severely mortified by those two...their appearance
and behavior.
BWAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Watch out, Sarah... John Boy is looking for another woman...
That Hatchet-Face deserves John a lot more than Deborah does....

It's amusing to contemplate how he will react to Sarah when he finds out
what it's REALLY like to *OBEY*. Har-Har-Har....
BWAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
How about this one?:

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gray hair and the jowls)
PyrateJohn
2008-10-23 02:15:26 UTC
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He keeps claiming that I'm so *old* and *ugly*.  He's never seen me, nor
a current picture.
You sent me the following photo several years ago:


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You weren't at all attractive then, and with an additional 10-15 years
there is no reason to think that you are any more attractive now.


You also sent me a series of photos with you masturbating with your
vibrator. The following is a sample:


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You are an ugly old woman Karen. Physically, you are not attractive.
Personality-wise, I cannot think of too many other women on the planet
who are less desireable than you are.

You have stalked several men before me.

You make excuses for every time that you have stalked some poor
schmuck. It's never your fault and you never take any responsibility
for being a serial stalker, right?

You never had any sort of career beyond being a waitress.

You never married, and you never had any sort of relationship in your
70 years of life that didn't end in disaster. Or a stalking.

You contacted me because you were depressed and considering suicide.
I was sympathetic, and told you to see an MD and to stay on your
meds. You became obsessed with me and built up this crazy fantasy
about about you wanting to have a relationship with me, you wanting to
move in with me, and so forth and that simply never happened.

As your pal Bill Schenley (ex-con and junkie) pointed out, you are a
woman of low self-esteem.

You also live in some sort of fantasy land where your only friends are
the imaginary playmates that you make up in Usenet. Lumpy and Gaspar
and the various other nyms don't exist Karen, and everyone knows that.

As far as the finances and relative social levels of the women that I
have dated Karen, you don't have a clue. You live in a very modest
small apartment in a town of little consequence. The gals that you
run down are all much more successful in their careers, and are
frankly at a much higher level socially than you ever were at or will
ever be. I hate to call you trailer trash, but the reality is that
you don't have a clue about 99% of the financial and social things
that you post and it shows through to anyone who reads this
nonsense. "Insane" is the word that folks use to describe you and
your rants, and it fits.

There. Hope that you feel better tonight.

I am somewhat sympathetic to your mental illness Karen, but the truth
of the matter is that other people deserve help more than you do. You
are simply a pain in the ass and you demand more attention than you
are worth.

--PirateJohn--
http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com


Licensed and certified owner of the Karen "Kook" Anderson troll and
serial IRL stalker and her various circus nyms - including Jose
Gaspar, Lumpy, Team Karen, and a dozen anonymous remailers.

For information on Karen Anderson of Bremerton, Washington go to

http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Anderson1.htm
Lumpy
2008-10-23 08:15:03 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
You also live in some sort of fantasy land where your only friends are
the imaginary playmates that you make up in Usenet.  Lumpy and Gaspar
and the various other nyms don't exist Karen, and everyone knows that.
As far as the finances and relative social levels of the women that I
have dated Karen, you don't have a clue.  You live in a very modest
small apartment in a town of little consequence.  The gals that you
run down are all much more successful in their careers, and are
frankly at a much higher level socially than you ever were at or will
ever be.  I hate to call you trailer trash, but the reality is that
you don't have a clue about 99% of the financial and social things
that you post and it shows through to anyone who reads this
nonsense.  >>
Number 1., I have no idea who Gaspar is, but I can attest to my
tenuous attachment to physical reality.

Number 2., I suddenly realized I've developed a kind of peculiar
loyalty to Karen, based on her whole-hearted adoption of my home
town. Funny how that kind of thing scratches the tribal instinct....
you come from a part of the country that's fetid and decrepit and
without relief, with a crushing socio-economic malaise that has
crippled almost everyone in it. People from the Seattle neighborhoods
consider your whole generic region as being one door away from Hell
itself. Our quality of life and educational status and economy has
provided generations of affluent citizens, notwithstanding the high
tech infrastructure. Our history of unions, finance, insurance, and
highly paid light industry has given us a healthy tax base and
excellent quality of life.

Number 3., that lady friend of yours is a hundred miles of bad road
and you have proven to the world that you're deliberately living on
her finite resources, because men do not seek out a female like that
for sexual enjoyment. For all Karen's peculiarities, she's made her
way in the world, which is a damned site more than you have ever done,
my fine fat friend.
PyrateJohn
2008-10-23 11:57:46 UTC
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Post by Lumpy
For all Karen's peculiarities, she's made her
way in the world,
"Lumpy" is Karen's pretend nym friend, but knowing how insane Old Odd
Anderson is she probably does think that "he" actually talks to her in
a peculiarly queer voice.

Fact: Karen Anderson has never demonstrated any sort of career other
than some nebulious inheritence. She won't discuss her past because
she never "made her own way."

Fact: Lumpy has never demonstrated that it even exists. It claims to
have once been an architect, yet cannot cite any sort of commission to
make itself believable. There is no credible evidence whatsoever that
it is any authority whatsoever on other people "making their way in
the world."

Fact: In the late 80's I was working as a corporate accountant and
pretty much living the yuppie suburban life: house in the 'burbs,
turbocharged Volvo that I traded for an Audi 4000S Quattro, etc. By
the mid 90's when I was a bachelor, and which is long before I met my
present girlfriend, I simultaneously owned 2 boats, 2 motorcycles, A
Porsche Carrera, an S-class Mercedes sedan, and the Range Rover that I
still own. That is in addition to a small fleet of Kenworths and a
mess of boat transport trailers and handling gear.

Clearly Anderson and her Lumpy nym are pulling shit out of their
asses. My Porsche is clearly visible on the driveway of my house near
the beaches when Anderson took her stalking photos, but the nyms
prefer to ignore reality and repeat fiction.

--PirateJohn--
http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com


Licensed and certified owner of the Karen "Kook" Anderson troll and
serial IRL stalker and her various circus nyms - including Jose
Gaspar, Lumpy, Team Karen, and a dozen anonymous remailers.

For information on Karen Anderson of Bremerton, Washington go to

http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Anderson1.htm
Lumpy
2008-10-23 15:43:52 UTC
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Fact:  In the late 80's I was working as a corporate accountant >>
So you have a bachelor's degree in finance or business from what
university? And you gaindc experience to enter the corporate field
where? And for how many years did you practice general accounting to
gain that experience?

HA! HA! HA! HA!

I love this stuff. Guys who live in old buses, writing to usenet,
pretending to a history they have no knowledge of. You don't even
know what it takes to be a corporate accountant, you flaming asshole.
Besides, Boeing mechanics make more than your pretend career, which
you would have known, thus proving your hilarious lying compulsion of
trying to prop up bullshit with your habit of equating used cars with
net worth and status, aka the KenSara/h/Gilmer Academy of Losers.
Ginger
2008-10-24 03:21:45 UTC
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On Oct 23, 10:43 am, Lumpy <***@gmail.com> wrote:


You were never an architect "Lumpy." You were just an old woman who
worked as a waitress until she got too old to do that.

So why should anyone give a flying fuck what you think about careers?
You don't have a fucking clue.
Karen
2008-10-24 04:59:45 UTC
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Post by Ginger
You were never an architect "Lumpy." You were just an old woman who
worked as a waitress until she got too old to do that.
So why should anyone give a flying fuck what you think about careers?
You don't have a fucking clue.
Gilmer has resurrected "Ginger Germany". Sounds DRUNK again, too.
<burp>
Karen
2008-10-24 21:32:47 UTC
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Post by Lumpy
I love this stuff. Guys who live in old buses, writing to usenet,
pretending to a history they have no knowledge of.
When I called him once about his insistence on relating never-ending
conquests and sexual encounters, he replied "Olde Phartes have to have
their fantasies". I suspect his work resume is a lot like that.
Fantasy. In reality it was a string of FAILURES.

You don't even
Post by Lumpy
know what it takes to be a corporate accountant, you flaming asshole.
Besides, Boeing mechanics make more than your pretend career, which
you would have known,
Not really. His only contact with "mechanics" are foreign cars and
motorcycles....and then he stiffs them for their labor and ends up with
judgments against him.

thus proving your hilarious lying compulsion of
Post by Lumpy
trying to prop up bullshit with your habit of equating used cars with
net worth and status, aka the KenSara/h/Gilmer Academy of Losers.
BINGO!! I am soooooooooooooo unimpressed with cars, motorcycles,
watches and other "toys" that are nothing but "status symbols" for those
whose existance is trying to keep up with the Joneses. A vehicle is
meant to get us from one place to the other; a watch is meant to tell
time. Beyond that, the rest is "showing off" to others who might think
the other person actually OWNS the item and has MONEY. It's usually
neither. Even if the stuff is paid for, I don't CARE if that's the
foolish way they wanted to spend their money.

As they say: "Clothes do NOT make the man"...and neither do watches,
cars and other toys...but Gilmer still hasn't a CLUE about that at age
52. I suspect he NEVER will figure it out....how does someone as
shallow as piss on a rock manage to develop some depth?

For a couple of days, I thought he experienced some kind of awakening
while meeting the victims of the hurricane in Louisiana (Gustav). That
new revelation only lasted about 2 days and then he was right back to
being his obnoxious and bottomless self. There really is no hope for
him....
Post by Lumpy
Licensed and certified owner of PirateJohn GilmAr, idiot, troll and
serial IRL liar and netstalker and his various circus nyms - including
Ginger and recent anonymous remailer maligning Erik.
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License #s:
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Jose Gaspar
2008-10-23 20:09:52 UTC
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In article <8786ce09-deed-402e-b769-***@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
PyrateJohn says...
Post by PyrateJohn
Fact: In the late 80's I was working as a corporate accountant and
pretty much living the yuppie suburban life: house in the 'burbs,
turbocharged Volvo that I traded for an Audi 4000S Quattro, etc. By
the mid 90's when I was a bachelor, and which is long before I met my
present girlfriend, I simultaneously owned 2 boats, 2 motorcycles, A
Porsche Carrera, an S-class Mercedes sedan, and the Range Rover that I
still own. That is in addition to a small fleet of Kenworths and a
mess of boat transport trailers and handling gear.
Look son, no one cares what you HAD. What you have now are two old vehicles
that constantly need repair... and you live out of one of them...

Your an alcoholic, obese, has-been who is sick more months out of a year than
not.

Your 'home' is a concrete driveway located in the slums of Jacksonville.

You've worked your way through 3 wives, threatening and beating at least some of
them along the way to your present 'girlfriend' who is a fat, wrinkled hog who
looks 20 years older than she claims.

Those are the real facts, Mr. John Gilmer... you've spent a lifetime drinking
your way to the gutter and you've finally arrived in all your cheap beer-breath
splendor...
Ginger
2008-10-24 03:26:04 UTC
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Look son, no one cares what you HAD.  
You claim to be some sort of Viet vet, but that's a lie. And that's
all that you have going for you "Jose" ... a lie about who you once
were.

After you postured for months, PJ stared you down and you pissed in
your pants. PJ was in Orlando, ready to face you, and you took a
lousy photo of PJ's truck and ran out of there as fast as you could
before PJ could even laugh at you.

Your idiot stalking pal Anderson claims that PJ is too dangerous for
you to face, and that further reinforces your looking like a pussy.

It's better to be a has been, Son, than to never have been. And you
ain't never been shit.
Karen
2008-10-24 05:21:00 UTC
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Post by Ginger
Post by Jose Gaspar
Look son, no one cares what you HAD.
You claim to be some sort of Viet vet, but that's a lie. And that's
all that you have going for you "Jose" ... a lie about who you once
were.
After you postured for months, PJ stared you down and you pissed in
your pants. PJ was in Orlando, ready to face you, and you took a
lousy photo of PJ's truck and ran out of there as fast as you could
before PJ could even laugh at you.
Your idiot stalking pal Anderson (the woman I love) claims that PJ is
too dangerous for
you to face, and that further reinforces your looking like a pussy.
It's better to be a has been, Son, than to never have been. And you
ain't never been shit.
Translation:

<hic> Now jusht a goddam minnit thar, bubba <hic>. Yous aint
nevverrr bin shitt, but yurrs trooly? <hic> I haz bin shitt <burp>
an I shtill iz shitt, so <hic> too hell wif yous fer schandin ol' Jhohn
up, ya heer assswhole?! <hic - hic> <belch> <fart>

Pooops .. 'skuuuza me cuz ol' Ginger here haz had hizself <hic>
t-t-tee many m-m-martooneys.. <burp>....<hic> <fart>
......................... <sniff sniff> ... O SHITT!!
Karen
2008-10-24 21:20:27 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Post by Lumpy
For all Karen's peculiarities, she's made her
way in the world,
"Lumpy" is Karen's pretend nym friend, but knowing how insane Old Odd
Anderson is she probably does think that "he" actually talks to her in
a peculiarly queer voice.
What kind of "conclusion" is this coming from your mushy brain?
Post by PyrateJohn
Fact: Karen Anderson has never demonstrated any sort of career other
than some nebulious inheritence.
Why didn't you come down to Cape Coral?....I could have "demonstrated"
to you what my main "career" was.....on stage playing my very own
priceless musical instrument to the delight of hundreds of happy
people.. You do remember that was why I went down there....to see/hear
my accordion?

She won't discuss her past because
Post by PyrateJohn
she never "made her own way."
I discuss my past freely to anybody who is interested. You never much
were and you have no ability to play a musical instrument, nor dance,
nor sing. Unlike you, I don't BRAG and EXAGGERATE about my past
endeavors and the *toys* I had. I just have no NEED to act like you
do....child-like. So instead of asking what my interests are or how I
"made my own way" in life without a husband paying for my every need,
you decide to "make up" that I was a "career waitress in truck stops".
Should I now inform the world that you've been a male prostitute all
your life, servicing women openly for money and care, but preferring
males (hence you post seeking "gay bikers")?
Post by PyrateJohn
Fact: Lumpy has never demonstrated that it even exists.
Just what would you consider a "demonstration"? Should he take a
picture of his pecker and email it to you?

You haven't "demonstrated" that he does NOT exist or that he is actually
KAREN. Why don't you go first? Or just SHUT the FUCK UP!!

Why don't you email him and see if you get an answer. That's what I
did.

It claims to
Post by PyrateJohn
have once been an architect,
How rude: "It" Are you next going to call him "that one"? Since he
lives on Bainbridge Island, I tend to believe that he made some major
bucks at one time. I have found no reason so far to doubt that he was
an architect. Not everyone LIES about their position in life (like you
do).

yet cannot cite any sort of commission to
Post by PyrateJohn
make itself believable.
When did this "cannot cite" occur. I don't recall you requested him to
prove or "cite" anything. You don't WANT to know the TRUTH. You want
to believe Lumpy is Karen. Period.

There is no credible evidence whatsoever that
Post by PyrateJohn
it is any authority whatsoever on other people "making their way in
the world."
Huh? You must have been on the sauce already when you pecked this out
yesterday.
Post by PyrateJohn
Fact: In the late 80's I was working as a corporate accountant and
pretty much living the yuppie suburban life: house in the 'burbs,
How big was your mortgage? Where did you wife work? You can't claim
this house was YOURS, free and clear. I'm not impressed if it belonged
to someone else....like all the rest of your recent houses. You merely
live there; someone else owns them.
Post by PyrateJohn
turbocharged Volvo that I traded for an Audi 4000S Quattro, etc.
<yawn> Vehicle depreciate. Who care what you get from Point A to Point
B in? I doubt you owned these, either. Just made car payments and when
you missed they were repo'd.

By
Post by PyrateJohn
the mid 90's when I was a bachelor,
For the 3rd time.

and which is long before I met my
Post by PyrateJohn
present girlfriend,
There was another WIFE (#3) in there before you met your "present
girlfriend"....that old hag is called a "girl"?

I simultaneously owned 2 boats, 2 motorcycles, A
Post by PyrateJohn
Porsche Carrera, an S-class Mercedes sedan, and the Range Rover that I
still own.
Absolutely all debt-free? You owned them all free and clear? Anymore
fairy tales to relate about your toys?

That is in addition to a small fleet of Kenworths

Does one make a "fleet"? LOL

and a
Post by PyrateJohn
mess of boat transport trailers and handling gear.
More junk that wasn't paid for. Is somebody supposed to be IMPRESSED
here? Tell us of positive things that you have DONE to help others,
things you have created/built/made, people whose lives are BETTER
because of you. Beauty you created. Anything at all...besides farts
and motorcycle exhaust?
Post by PyrateJohn
Clearly Anderson and her Lumpy nym are pulling shit out of their
asses.
Clearly. Through those "rose-colored glasses" you PHs wear. Clearly.
Through the bottom of a glass or bottle.

My Porsche is clearly visible on the driveway of my house near
Post by PyrateJohn
the beaches
"near"? More than five miles away. You can't SEE any water, nor walk
to it.
Post by PyrateJohn
when Anderson took her stalking photos,
Hey....I am a secret real estate agent and I can take pictures of
properties that are coming up for sale as I drive by. That's not
stalking when nobody is on the photo. Where WERE you when I took those
pictures? Anywhere in the vicinity? Did any of the neighbors call the
police about a suspicious vehicle that stopped for a second and snapped
a couple of pictures? Did ANYbody CARE?

Oh yes....not only was that nearly broken down little red car sitting
there, but 3 other vehicles that hadn't moved in months. You had some
complaints and citations about all the junk you had in your driveway
cluttering up the neighborhood, didn't you?

but the nyms
Post by PyrateJohn
prefer to ignore reality and repeat fiction.
That's right....you and all your "nyms" certainly do prefer to ignore
reality and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat fiction.
Hows that BOOK on fiction coming along? LOL!!
Post by PyrateJohn
Licensed and certified owner of PirateJohn GilmAr, idiot, troll and
serial IRL liar and netstalker and his various circus nyms - including
Ginger, Zaprat's nym, and recent anonymous remailer maligning Erik.
Texas State Highway Patrol
License #s:
Wanderlodge, Florida (Duval) C26 2RR
LandRover Discovery, Florida W19 DEP

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KAREN K. "BEAVERSHOT" ANDERSON
2008-10-24 23:37:31 UTC
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Just putting Old Karen's latest rant into perspective
Karen
2008-10-25 01:04:37 UTC
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Post by KAREN K. "BEAVERSHOT" ANDERSON
Just putting Old Karen's latest rant into perspective
Get Lost, Pathetic Idiot. Cowardly Loser.

I won. You lost. Get over it....
---
You are a pathetic COWARD who has to post with my name as you slither
away. Everybody can see what you are now. You played right into my
hand, tho.... so thanks for that. Idiot.

Be sure to load up with lots of aspirin every day. <eg>

Buh-Bye, Johnny....don't let the door hit your fat ass on the way out.
Fuck-Up. Loser. Psychopath. Sweetheart Scammer. Thief.

See ya down the road, loser.
Post by KAREN K. "BEAVERSHOT" ANDERSON
Licensed and certified owner of PirateJohn GilmAr, idiot, troll and
serial IRL liar and netstalker and his various circus nyms - including
Ginger, forged Zaprat, "Beavershot" and recent anonymous remailer
maligning Erik.
For information on John Wesley Gilmer III (on the run to Mexico)
Texas State Highway Patrol
License #s:
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LandRover Discovery, Florida W19 DEP
BMW Sedan, Florida E15 1SY

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_____________________________
John Gilmer's blog 10/24/2008


"Barring anything unforeseen Deb and I plan to settle down in Houston
for a few years. Except to move our property out of Jacksonville, and
assuming that there isn't a hurricane in Florida that takes us back to
the state next year, I don't anticipate that we'll be back in Florida
any time soon.

I guess that when we get back from Mexico I'll have to consider the
unthinkable again - getting a job."
--
First of all, there is always a market for fiction. Witness Santa
Claus. (PirateJohn Gilmer 9-15-2008)
Karen
2008-10-24 20:53:08 UTC
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Post by Lumpy
Post by PyrateJohn
You also live in some sort of fantasy land where your only friends
are the imaginary playmates that you make up in Usenet. Lumpy and
Gaspar and the various other nyms don't exist Karen, and everyone
knows that.
As far as the finances and relative social levels of the women that I
have dated Karen, you don't have a clue. You live in a very modest
small apartment in a town of little consequence. The gals that you
run down are all much more successful in their careers, and are
frankly at a much higher level socially than you ever were at or will
ever be. I hate to call you trailer trash, but the reality is that
you don't have a clue about 99% of the financial and social things
that you post and it shows through to anyone who reads this
nonsense. >>
Number 1., I have no idea who Gaspar is, but I can attest to my
tenuous attachment to physical reality.
Of course, you know that he and I are not each other nor are we YOU.
If Gilmer would just try a civil email to each of us, he'd have some
basic answers. He doesn't like TRUTH and REALITY, however....he prefers
these "cheap thrills" and feeding his obsession with ... Karen. So, I
continue to be his victim, whether or not I participate. I tried for
years NOT to (as he's no longer rational and it was a waste of my time);
however, that didn't work and he just ramped up the abuse, knowing
sooner or later he'd get me to reply. Considering how that has gone for
him, any normal person would have realized they'd made a BAD choice and
slink away. Not that stupid numbnutz...he's a masochist and loves being
kicked around it seems.
Post by Lumpy
Number 2., I suddenly realized I've developed a kind of peculiar
loyalty to Karen,
You are a man who can appreciate the TRUTH. And I feel a loyalty to you
because of that. Those who take John's side become revolting to
me....they aren't much better than he is and incredibly STUPID and/or
naive.

based on her whole-hearted adoption of my home
Post by Lumpy
town.
I CHOSE to move here and if I didn't like it, I'd move elsewhere. I am
proud of myself for choosing the place I did when I had the entire US to
choose from. It was kinda overwhelming to have that kind of
freedom.....I could have moved absolutely anywhere (that I could
afford)....any state. I first was intending on Oregon....Portland area
or closer to the Coast or maybe as far south as Cottage Grove where I
had relatives. But I decided Puget Sound area of Washington would be
even better for me and specifically Kitsap County. Seattle is a BIG
city and in many ways, all big cities are alike as far as things I no
longer want in my daily life. I wanted to be near one, but far enough
way so I was "out in the country". I am close enough to both Seattle
and Tacoma for anything I might want to do/buy in a big city, but I
basically live in a small city and it has a "country/rural" atmosphere.
On Sylvan Road where I am there aren't any streetlights, curbs or
sidewalks....just road ditches...and lotsa blackberries ;)

Funny how that kind of thing scratches the tribal instinct....
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you come from a part of the country that's fetid and decrepit and
without relief,
Jacksonville is about the least attractive place in FL to be. I've been
all over except the panhandle and I probably would like that better than
the rest if I ever get down to see it. Jose has spent the majority of
his life in FL and he prefers the central location where he is. He
lives in a rural setting but isn't far from big cities, either. If I
ever had reason to move to FL (totally remote possibility) I seem to
prefer the Gulf Coast. I can't think of ONE good thing about living in
Jacksonville.

with a crushing socio-economic malaise that has
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crippled almost everyone in it.
The real estate biz has certainly taken a dive....yet Ms. Lovely has
this great *career* that I never had. It's a joke.

People from the Seattle neighborhoods
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consider your whole generic region as being one door away from Hell
itself.
Seattle and Jacksonville are as far apart in class and quality of life
as they are in their opposite corners of the United States. Few people
living around here have any desire to ever live anywhere else...and I
can see why. I don't even care to travel much now. No place has the
clean air, for starters. Not many places have as much water all around
them as I do, either. Few places are as easy to garden in as
here....growing plants love the weather and very long growing season...
plus, the ground doesn't freeze in winter, nor do they burn up in
summer. Spring and Fall are long seasons.

Our quality of life and educational status and economy has
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provided generations of affluent citizens, notwithstanding the high
tech infrastructure.
Not long ago I read that Seattle is the BEST place in the US to raise
children. Kids that grow up here are lucky....so much to see and
do...so many opportunities for a GOOD life.

Gilmer is attracted to TRASHY and TACKY. He would be miserable around
here and wouldn't fit in with most people. He's right at home where he
is. He couldn't survive in Danville, KY where he was born and grew up,
either. Far too civilized and dignified for him. He has no standards
and needs to associate with others in places where they don't have any,
either.

Our history of unions, finance, insurance, and
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highly paid light industry has given us a healthy tax base and
excellent quality of life.
Bill Gates certainly could have set up shop anywhere. He chose to stay
here.
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Number 3., that lady friend of yours is a hundred miles of bad road
And he's added a few more hundred to her in the past 4 years. If he
doesn't find somebody else soon and drop her, she will be too far gone
to survive by the time he's done with her. I saw her (at a distance)
and have seen pictures close up of her when they first got together.
Few woman change for the worse in 4 years time like she has....all
thanks to John Gilmer. I think he does that to pretty much all the
women who spend some years with him. My aging process has accellerated
since dealing with the idiot. He is what is known as an "Emotional
Vampire".
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and you have proven to the world that you're deliberately living on
her finite resources,
He thinks that's a joke. Proudly calls her "BossWoman" and "She Who
Must Be Obeyed". He seeks out women who will "take care of him".

because men do not seek out a female like that
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for sexual enjoyment.
That's something he only provides as a "service" to them when they
demand it....looks at it as "paying his rent". Doesn't bother him at
all to go for a year without sex with his wife until she decided she
wanted some. He may not be totally gay, but at the very least he's
bi-sexual. And he's either had a vasectomy or is just sterile. Nobody
can be as lucky as he has been or as careful about protection when he
claims to have bedded *countless* different women and NEVER once did he
get caught? He was drunk much of the time and nobody was being
responsible enough to be "careful". He knows he's safe...
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For all Karen's peculiarities,
Now, now......I pride myself in not being just like every other woman.
Why should I be? I've always had the talent, skills, brains, and
freedom to do what I want to....not what I got myself into because I
didn't have another choice. If I were a male, I would NEVER be thought
of as "peculiar". I walk to the sound of my own drummer and depend on
no one to "help" or "take care of me". When that time comes, I will
hire someone.


she's made her
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way in the world, which is a damned site more than you have ever done,
my fine fat friend.
John and I both started out with good and decent parents....but his had
far more money and education (in his father's case). But I followed the
right paths in my life and John took the back roads in his. I worked
for my money and recognition; he decided to STEAL from others and create
a fake persona that he believes is some kind of celebrity. I got more
attention than I wanted and he can't get enough....even when it's
negative. I thoroughly enjoy living alone and taking care of myself,
entertaining myself with my various interests and hobbies; he can't
stand to be alone, can't fend for himself, has no productive or
rewarding hobbies, and has to depend on liquor to alter his mood so he
thinks he's enjoying life.

He would be so uncomfortable if he met or got to know "Jose"....who has
more interests and skills than most anybody I know. He never has time
to be bored as he has dozens of productive and interesting things to
turn to...and is always seeking new things to learn and master. John
becomes monotonous to others before long as he is very limited in his
activities and abilities. You can see from his posting and writing that
he's extremely repetitious. He thinks I want(ed) to "move in with
him"....God, I'd have run off after the first week due to him boring me
to death.

Everything he does with women is always what HE wants to do, where HE
wants to go. If Deborah had any kind of life or interests before she
met him, she's dropped them all now to follow him around as he chases
dreams he told me about 2-3 years before he ever heard of her. If she
ever does anything she wants to now, he doesn't go with her. He won't
do ONE thing that isn't on HIS agenda. Everything is always about HIM,
all the time. She not only pays for his dreams, she goes along with him
and takes care of him, too. I'm sure he spins his ideas so she thinks
they are her dreams, too. Poor thing that she is. The latest of his
"victims" ... his latest "meal ticket"..
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