Discussion:
Gilmer uses Erik to set me up
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Karen
2008-10-23 03:33:50 UTC
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Whose "life" is so empty his only pleasure
is derived from attacking internet posters.
Hello Karen.
Hello Gilmar. Up to your old tricks again, I see.

Once AGAIN, you have posted something that vaguely looks like I wrote it
and about a person I don't like but you do (to throw them and everybody
else off). Then you immediately reply and make sure everyone thinks I
posted it while you feign innocence.

You are pitifully transparent....you've done this many times with
"letters you received" and sending email to others (Sarah was one of the
recipients), forging my name so they'd blame me. YOU sent her several
VILE emails, using my name. You're her "friend". She never considered
the writing was YOURS, not mine.

You posted on a gay ng, then when I caught you, you pretended you knew
nothing about it. Then you claimed somebody forged it. THEN you
claimed *I* posted it.

Never in my long life of meeting and knowing thousands of people have I
encountered a glob of pig shit like you are, John. You have absolutely
NO bottom. There is NOTHING you won't do....especially to women who
best you. I can't think of a word for the quality of person you are.
Depraved? Evil? Toxic? I can't wait until you end up in prison and
get worked over on a regular basis. Nothing they do to you will be bad
enough or as much as you deserve.

What happened to the "grace and dignity" you recently witnessed and how
those people put into perspective the silly nonsense on Usenet?

You wouldn't know "grace or dignity" or any good and positive human
quality if it bit you in your fat ass.

You wrote to me first in 2002. You were the one with such severe
emotional problems that you claimed you were ready to take a gun to
Wal-Mart and start shooting. You insisted for a month that we had to
meet when I came to FL in 2004....one day you wrote me *57* times. I
have ALL your EMAILS and some of them are going to come to light on
Usenet very soon because I'm not going to put up with your version of
"history rewritten" and your spin and deflection for another five years.
You no longer can remember ONE thing about me that is true. You can't
write ONE word that is true or factual. You wouldn't recognize me if I
pinched you in your ample ass (don't bother waiting and hoping for that
to happen). You don't know me at ALL. But I know you.....you have NO
idea how well I know YOU and what I know ABOUT you!

I don't want to post here, but I know I have some supporters and they
are laffing their ass off about now seeing me kick you to the curb
AGAIN.

However, your days of setting me up like you just did with that nasty
(anonymous) post about Erik are over. You got away with this crap for a
long time, but no more.....because I'm going to keep exposing you now.
You accuse me of doing what YOU do. All the shit you perform here and
elsewhere on Usenet (and probably in every area of your miserable life)
you project onto others and then play victim. You are sick. Wicked,
evil and sick.

I've never said this to anybody in my life but you deserve it: God DAMN
You, John Gilmer!! May you rot in hell for your lies and what you do to
hurt other people!

Karen Anderson
Karen
2008-10-23 03:52:04 UTC
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The following was written and posted by PirateJohn Gilmer. It is a
set-up. He posted anonymously and wrote in a style similar to mine
directed at a friend of his, but someone I don't like -- Erik/islanders.

Who would guess that Gilmer wrote it? Certainly not Erik/islanders.

Gilmer has done this several times in the past....writing something
using my name or pretending someone else wrote it, but then blamed ME
for writing it. He's even posted nasty things about himself and then
claimed I wrote it. He's sent numerous nasty emails to people through
the years using my name and they believed it was from me.

Think back to what you ASSUME I wrote or pictures you received.....are
you SURE it was from me.....?? PirateJohn Gilmer certainly wants you to
think it was.

He's been making false accusations and claims about me for FIVE years
now. I don't expect they will ever end....because he's mentally ill (to
put it mildly). He has an obsession with destroying my credibility. I
know too much about him.....more than he can comprehend.

He survives by destroying others....particularly women. More than one
woman is terrified of him now. He's got a criminal record for
communicating threats and committing physical violence on women in the
past. Wake County, NC.

Karen Anderson
Several public health studies (as yet unpublished) are indicating
that the Baby Bust Cohort (born 1964-1976) will have shorter life
expectancies than the Baby Boomers.
This is primarily due to obesity related illnesses.
The good news is that this will have a positive impact on Social
Security obligations.
It is not clear if this trend can be reversed in that cohort.
Al
Hopefully, you will be the first to go.
This coming from a "man' who can not ride any elevator not
labeled "freight". Who is so obese he gets tickets for
obstructing traffic when on foot. Whose heart, lungs, kidneys,
knees and feet should be giving out any day now. Who has to
put down a never refunded cleaning deposit before being allowed
in any public restroom. Whose "life" is so empty his only pleasure
is derived from attacking internet posters. Who hates himself
so much he is committing gastronomic suicide one pig out at
a time. Who does not understand the concept of "leftovers".
Who can best serve the human race by leaving it quickly. Post
a picture of yourself, using an extra, extra wide angle lens
on the internet for us all to disbelieve. Your leaking adult
diapers still causing terror alerts, freak? Why don't you
crawl back into your cave and stay there and off the net?
PyrateJohn
2008-10-23 04:38:52 UTC
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Post by Karen
He's been making false accusations and claims about me for FIVE years
now.  
It's not a "false accusation" to say that you sent me the following
photo of you masturbating with your
vibrator a few years ago. The following is a sample of the 40-
something naked photos that you sent me:


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It's not a false accusation to say that you are an ugly old woman
Karen. Physically, you are not attractive. Personality-wise, I cannot
think of too many other women on the planet who are less desireable
than you are.


It's not a false accusation to say that you have stalked several men
before me.


It's not a false accusation to say that you make excuses for every
time that you have stalked some poor schmuck. It's never your fault
and you never take any responsibility for being a serial stalker,
right?


It's not a false accusation to say that you never had any sort of
career beyond being a waitress.


It's not a false accusation to say that you never married, and you
never had any sort of relationship in your 70 years of life that
didn't end in disaster. Or a stalking.


It's not a false accusation to say that you contacted me because you
were depressed and considering suicide. I was sympathetic, and told
you to see an MD and to stay on your meds. You became obsessed with
me and built up this crazy fantasy about about you wanting to have a
relationship with me, you wanting to move in with me, and so forth and
that simply never happened.


It's not a false accusation to say that you live in some sort of
fantasy land where your only friends are the imaginary playmates that
you make up in Usenet. Lumpy and Gaspar and the various other nyms
don't exist Karen, and everyone knows that.


I am somewhat sympathetic to your mental illness Karen, but the truth
of the matter is that other people deserve help more than you do. You
are simply a pain in the ass and you demand more attention than you
are worth.
Post by Karen
 More than one
woman is terrified of him now.  He's got a criminal record for
communicating threats and committing physical violence on women in the
past.  Wake County, NC.
Bullshit.

It's easy for someone like you to make up bullshit about someone
having a "criminal record" when none exists. I haven't lived in Wake
County for perhaps 15 years and have held several positions since then
that required a background check, all of which I passed successfully.

On the other hand I know for a fact that there have been several
complaints to the Bremerton, Washington police complaining that you
are a stalker. You have threatened physical harm to me, Rob Hickey,
my mother, and my girlfriend, who you are insanely jealous of.

You are a fucking nutcase, Karen.

--PirateJohn--
http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com


Licensed and certified owner of the Karen "Kook" Anderson troll and
serial IRL stalker and her various circus nyms - including Jose
Gaspar, Lumpy, Team Karen, and a dozen anonymous remailers.

For information on Karen Anderson of Bremerton, Washington go to

http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Anderson1.htm
Karen
2008-10-23 07:21:51 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Post by Karen
He's been making false accusations and claims about me for FIVE years
now.
It's not a "false accusation" to say that you sent me the following
photo of you masturbating with your
vibrator a few years ago.
Show the PROOF you have that any pictures are of ME.

The following is a sample of the 40-
A "sample" of one, but you received 40 you claim. Where is the PROOF
that is me? Who added the black hair? What ELSE did you receive from
me? Hmmmm?
Post by PyrateJohn
http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Anderson........
It's not a false accusation to say that you are an ugly old woman
Karen. Physically, you are not attractive.
I don't give a shit about your opinion of me considering what you call
"lovely".
Your opinion of "attractive" is this (the "Lovely Ms. Deborah"):
Loading Image...

And you call ME an "ugly old woman"?

Personality-wise, I cannot
Post by PyrateJohn
think of too many other women on the planet who are less desireable
than you are.
That's not what you used to tell me. Email samples to follow.
Post by PyrateJohn
It's not a false accusation to say that you have stalked several men
before me.
NAMES (second request today):

_______________
_______________
_______________
_______________
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_______________
Post by PyrateJohn
It's not a false accusation to say that you make excuses for every
time that you have stalked some poor schmuck.
An INVITATION turns into "stalking" when I show up to face you
"schmucks".

It's never your fault
Post by PyrateJohn
and you never take any responsibility for being a serial stalker,
Can I help it that I'm so hot in email that you "schmucks" (Hickey and
Gilmer) nearly beg me to meet you? Hickey was going to send me a plane
ticket if I'd come to New Orleans since he can't travel beyond a few
miles from his house.

YOU offered to ride your scooter up HERE to Washington. Then you wanted
to meet me in Southern California (Slab City). Then you were going to
ride down to Ft. Myers to "take me to lunch" when you found out I was
coming to FL for a music fest. Finally, you convinced me to drive out
of my way to Jacksonville where we were going to meet at my motel on
Saturday morning and go down to Ft. Matanzas where you were going to BUY
MY LUNCH and we were going to have nothing but FUN FUN FUN while I was
"your guest".

When you turned chicken shit and didn't show I found you kissing an old
blonde bimbo after you lied to me and mumbled that you had been
scheduled by the motorcycle club for unspecified duties. Yeah right.
You had a hot one on the string with a home and good income. You
suddenly didn't NEED me. You can claim anything you want to about me,
but the bottom line is you were attempting to scam SEVERAL women at the
same time, and I needed to be eliminated. You didn't expect me to
discover your lies and manipulations so have devoted the past FIVE years
to lies and FALSE ACCUSATIONS in hopes of destroying my credibility and
cover your sorry fat ass. It AIN'T WORKING. Try being honest and
admitting you are a world-class FUCK UP.
Post by PyrateJohn
right?
Wrong. You haven't gotten anything right yet.
Post by PyrateJohn
It's not a false accusation to say that you never had any sort of
career beyond being a waitress.
That's the biggest lie and false accusation of all. I've never worked
(or volunteered) one HOUR in my life to being a WAITRESS. PROVE
OTHERWISE or STFU!!!
Post by PyrateJohn
It's not a false accusation to say that you never married,
I'm not a FAILURE, like you are. I'm proud of that. I would NEVER have
settled for a BUM like you. You're physically offensive in various
ways, too. :'P You admitted that you make women miserable. I think
you enjoy it, don't you? I was too busy with my musical career and my
full-time job. I had lots of money to spend and save. I didn't need a
man's money and wasn't interested in the "wife and mother" commitment.
I had lots of traveling I wanted to do...and the freedom to do it. You
should have found a woman like me. You'd have been very lucky. No
"high maintenance" that you can't afford. LOL!!

and you
Post by PyrateJohn
never had any sort of relationship in your 70 years of life that
didn't end in disaster.
PROVE THAT. You haven't a CLUE about my personal life NOW or in the
past. I'm proud to say it wasn't sordid like yours. I also spent a big
part of ten years helping take care of my mother...half the time in WI
and the other half in AZ (something you wouldn't do for ONE day)....all
your mother means to you is MONEY. I hope she lives in good health till
she's 100....and you croak without every getting hold of your
inheritance. LOL
Post by PyrateJohn
Or a stalking.
Any PROOF? Or just imaginary and more *false accusations*. You must
have missed Hickey's admission that I WAS NOT STALKING HIM. Wanna see
it? It's sitting in Google Archives.
Post by PyrateJohn
It's not a false accusation to say that you contacted me because you
were depressed and considering suicide.
It ABSOLUTELY IS a FALSE ACCUSATION.

The emails will be posted showing when YOU contacted me FIRST and what
was written. Nothing whatsoever about "depressed or considering
suicide". You are a vicious liar, aren't you?

I was sympathetic, and told
Post by PyrateJohn
you to see an MD and to stay on your meds.
Thousands of emails over nearly two years and that's all you wrote to me
about? Stay tuned for some "samples" of what you REALLY wrote. I have
many thousands of saved emails to wade through and I hoped you'd never
push me to waste my time doing this, but you seem determined to have
your ass kicked yet again....shall I send CCs to Deborah? How about
Joey (the WIFE you denied and claimed you were SINGLE)? Sleazebag.

As for "seeing an MD".....I was seeing several of them at once and you
knew that. I was diagnosed with cancer....no thanks to you. I had to
STOP one of my long-time RXs and it was rough going. You deliberately
jerked me around because you are a sadist. Now you are claiming you
were "helping" me. <sheesh>

You became obsessed with
Post by PyrateJohn
me and built up this crazy fantasy about about you wanting to have a
relationship with me,
That's what EVERY *sweetheart scammer* claims.....the other person had
"crazy fantasies" about a "relationship". Of course, the scammer never
led anybody on or encouraged any fantasies....lawyers and judges know
otherwise. You bastards are all alike. You sweet-talk women and tell
them what they want to hear, give them a come-on....and later whine
about being a "victim" and how the other person developed a CRUSH on you
for no reason at all. That is your M.O. -- you and your kind are major
MANIPULATORS of other people....women are much easier for you than men,
aren't they?
Post by PyrateJohn
you wanting to move in with me,
This is evidence of your delusions (and wishful thinking). Please show
some PROOF that I EVER wrote, said or indicated in the slightest that
was my desire. You can't because it was just the OPPOSITE. I didn't
even want to meet your ugly snout in person!!! Why would I want to
"move in" with you when I OWN my home free and clear and you were living
in a house your WIFE owned. You had to "move in" with Deborah right
away cause your wife sold the house and left you...homeless. Is there
no end to your DELUSIONS and FALSE ACCUSATIONS?

and so forth and
Post by PyrateJohn
that simply never happened.
"and so forth"....like what exactly. What "never happened" is
EVERYTHING you claim about me. It's all LIES, SPIN, and FALSE
ACCUSATIONS....including your lame police report. Why don't you EVER
mention EVERYTHING that was in that envelope? Hmmmm....?
Post by PyrateJohn
It's not a false accusation to say that you live in some sort of
fantasy land where your only friends are the imaginary playmates that
you make up in Usenet.
PROVE THAT. Looking in the mirror doesn't count. You would be
surprised who my friends are on a several newsgroups....we correspond
"back channel". You have no idea. That's your problem. You don't pay
attention and you just make up shit and then you believe it. You have
completely lost sight of the line between fantasy and reality. Another
sign of your insanity...

Lumpy and Gaspar and the various other nyms
Post by PyrateJohn
don't exist Karen, and everyone knows that.
Who is "everyone"? The truth is: YOU are the ONLY one who can't accept
that Lumpy and Gaspar are the individuals they say they are. YOU are
compulsively obsessed with KAREN, John. EVERYBODY is me....dozens of
people in the past years...they're all KAREN. Some people tell me they
LAUGHED at you for being such an idiot; others tell me it's obvious you
are insanely obsessed with me. I find it unsettling to know there is
someone out there who is so warped and twisted and uses a cat he's named
for me as his "partner" when he has obviously alone.

If I didn't live so far away and you can't AFFORD to buy the fuel to get
up here, I would be frightened for my life. You've openly invited
someone to harm or KILL me and posted my address nearly 2000 times. Do
you really think all this is NORMAL behavior for a 52 year old? What's
really unsettling is that I don't think you even are aware of how VERY
INSANE you have become. You think that people believe you are normal
and I am the one who's crazy.

Everybody knows Jose Gaspar is a man living in Florida and Lumpy is a
man living in my general area. Several people in various groups have
corresponded by email with them....and have clued in other people on the
groups. YOU are the ONLY one who thinks those two men are KAREN.

Don't you read our conversations? Are you claiming I'm writing all
three people and carrying on a conversation with myself? Who could
possibly think that YOU are SANE????

Did I just take the beautiful pictures in North Carolina? Was I REALLY
in Orlando that day you so desperately wanted me to be there? Did I
take the recently posted pictures from England and France? Did I take
the pictures of Horizon Coach and Nav-A-Gator? I'm HERE in WASHINGTON
every day. Not hiding in your bushes in Jacksonville. Do you really
expect anybody to believe that YOU are making SANE and TRUTHFUL
accusations about me?? You overplayed your hand years ago and what some
people might have believed five years ago, they long since have realized
that you are a nutcase and they believe ME now. Why don't you just GIVE
UP, idiot?
Post by PyrateJohn
I am somewhat sympathetic to your mental illness Karen,
<yawn> I could not care less what you are "sympathetic" about, one way
or the other. You have no feelings except to satisfy your own needs and
wants. I have no "mental illness" beyond clinical depression that is
very much under control....it is caused by a blood chemistry imbalance
from massive doses of medically prescribed steroids 35 years ago. What
is YOUR problem? ALCOHOLISM??

but the truth
Post by PyrateJohn
of the matter is that other people deserve help more than you do.
Of course they do. I'm fine except I've got a toxic fungus clinging to
me that I can't seem to scrape off....that would be YOU, John. I hope
you don't expect me to believe that you HELP anybody...but yourself.
Now you have your grubby fingers in the US Government trough....you've
now elevated yourself to scamming our government.....no more bothering
with little peanuts like a woman here and there....right to the top dog
now, eh? Are they offering health insurance, too? You are a major
illness or accident waiting to happen. LOL...

You
Post by PyrateJohn
are simply a pain in the ass and you demand more attention than you
are worth.
I don't demand any attention from you but you keep forcing it on me.
You insist on stroking your obsession with me and just can't let go of
me. I wish you would DIE so I'd be rid of you. I'm not the only one
who is a "pain in the ass" for you, am I? You reap what you sow, dude.
You need to realize there are consequences down the line for your
disgusting behavior in the past. That's why many men are in JAIL.
Post by PyrateJohn
Post by Karen
More than one
woman is terrified of him now. He's got a criminal record for
communicating threats and committing physical violence on women in
the past. Wake County, NC.
Bullshit.
DENIAL.
Post by PyrateJohn
It's easy for someone like you to make up bullshit about someone
having a "criminal record" when none exists.
I didn't "make up" anything. I was sent records.....from multiple
sources. There are even PICTURES of some of your victims. Glad I
didn't see them. You have a wide range of offenses on record. You
can't even VOTE, can you?

I haven't lived in Wake
Post by PyrateJohn
County for perhaps 15 years and have held several positions since then
that required a background check, all of which I passed successfully.
PROVE IT. You just lie and try to cover your ass....but you can't
change FACTS and LEGAL records....you just bluster and hope they don't
see the light of day. Good luck with that tactic....
Post by PyrateJohn
On the other hand I know for a fact that there have been several
complaints to the Bremerton, Washington police complaining that you
are a stalker.
You have made more than one FALSE report. NOTHING comes of your whines
and lies, does it? But this crap is likely to come back to bite your
ample ass ... sooner or later.

When I've been INVITED to visit someone and I show up, that isn't
STALKING, fool.

You have threatened physical harm to me, Rob Hickey,
Post by PyrateJohn
my mother, and my girlfriend, who you are insanely jealous of.
SHOW PROOF OF THAT.

I feel sorry for your "girlfriend" and even MORESO for your pretty
mother. She deserves better than the asshole son she ended up with who
is an ongoing embarrassment. She must have been quite beautiful when
she was young...and she still looks damn good....far better than your
wornout "girlfriend".
Post by PyrateJohn
You are a fucking nutcase, Karen.
You know nothing of my sex life...past, present or future. So just
refer to me as a "nutcase", please. I am very bright and talented and
spirited....not to mention ADMIRED. You don't understand why I continue
to BEST you, so your last defense is that I'm "crazy". Meanwhile, you
show yourself to be majorly insane and significantly mentally ill. If
you insist on staying alive, I expect you will end up in a place for the
"criminally insane".

You are your own worst enemy, John. And you are paranoid. You tell so
many lies and then you believe them. NONE OF WHAT YOU CLAIM ABOUT ME
ABOVE IS TRUE and I won't be expecting you to show any PROOF for
anything I challenged you on.

You are far worse than a mere "nutcase". You really don't deserve the
Gift of Life. You gorge yourself with good food that deserving and
worthwhile people should have. You don't belong on this earth with good
people. Go to HELL where your master dwells...and the rest of your kind
are spending eternity.
Lumpy
2008-10-23 08:38:44 UTC
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On Oct 23, 12:21 am, "Karen" <***@nospam.com> wrote:

-excellent rant snipped-
You are far worse than a mere "nutcase".  You really don't deserve the
Gift of Life.  You gorge yourself with good food that deserving and
worthwhile people should have.  You don't belong on this earth with good
people.  Go to HELL where your master dwells...and the rest of your kind
are spending eternity.
Well, I'd say that whole post was just about as sturdy a blow as I've
seen in awhile. lol.

Why was Gilmer posting with his own name on that queer website?
Karen
2008-10-25 02:29:54 UTC
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Post by Lumpy
-excellent rant snipped-
You are far worse than a mere "nutcase". You really don't deserve the
Gift of Life. You gorge yourself with good food that deserving and
worthwhile people should have. You don't belong on this earth with
good people. Go to HELL where your master dwells...and the rest of
your kind are spending eternity.
Well, I'd say that whole post was just about as sturdy a blow as I've
seen in awhile. lol.
I warned him not to cross me and not to stand me up. Even after all
these years, he still hasn't learned how he SHOULD have handled this.
He must have rolled over every woman in his life...till he crossed paths
with me.

I was flirting the last two days with a migraine and was low on patience
or sense of humour. I just get so sick of that miserable person at
times that I really can't make my remarks too strong!! He is a serial
abuser who will never stop. He would continue beating, stabbing or
shooting a woman long after she's dead. If he's not insane, I don't
know who is.

I tried for years to give him the silent treatment but he never let up
on the attacks and abuse directed at me, using anybody in sight. It's
time now to try something different so I'm telling him and everybody
what he is and calling his bluff on some of this crap he's been throwing
out for 5 years ... and he doesn't even seem to notice when he's getting
his fat rump kicked. He has no human emotions or feelings so it all
rolls off like water off a duck's back. But my satisfaction comes from
getting the TRUTH and the FACTS archived on Google. I can never counter
all the garbage he's posted about me or the near-2000 times he's posted
my home address, but at least he's not looking so good or credible
anymore for anybody who cares to do some looking around someday....like
a future employer, for example. ;')
Post by Lumpy
Why was Gilmer posting with his own name on that queer website?
He posted using Supernews so he could later claim the post was forged if
somebody called him on it. He's got a THANG for gay men. He's either
bi- or totally gay himself. I'm not the first one to figure that out,
either.
Jose Gaspar
2008-10-25 17:10:32 UTC
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In article <CwvMk.91374$***@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Karen
says...
Post by Karen
Post by Lumpy
-excellent rant snipped-
You are far worse than a mere "nutcase". You really don't deserve the
Gift of Life. You gorge yourself with good food that deserving and
worthwhile people should have. You don't belong on this earth with
good people. Go to HELL where your master dwells...and the rest of
your kind are spending eternity.
Well, I'd say that whole post was just about as sturdy a blow as I've
seen in awhile. lol.
I warned him not to cross me and not to stand me up. Even after all
these years, he still hasn't learned how he SHOULD have handled this.
He loves the attention, Karen. He's the adult version of the child that
willingly accepts a spanking in trade for attention. After folks get to know
John, they become nauseated by his behavior and ignore him. Wherever he has
gone, he's left a wake of destruction in his path. Soon he'll lose his bus and
sell what few items he has left and become homeless. Then he'll leave for
Mexico with a few thousand dollars in his pocket and drink himself to death.
You can take John Gilmer out of Kentucky but you can't take Kentucky out of John
Gilmer. The same holds true with Ken Ehrett and Missouri. Gilmer and Ehrett
remind me of the old joke:
Q: How can you tell the difference between a poor hillbilly and a rich
hillbilly?
A: A rich hillbilly has TWO cars jacked up in the front yard.
Karen
2008-10-25 19:42:54 UTC
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Post by Jose Gaspar
In article
says...
Post by Karen
Post by Lumpy
-excellent rant snipped-
You are far worse than a mere "nutcase". You really don't deserve
the Gift of Life. You gorge yourself with good food that deserving
and worthwhile people should have. You don't belong on this earth
with good people. Go to HELL where your master dwells...and the
rest of your kind are spending eternity.
Well, I'd say that whole post was just about as sturdy a blow as
I've seen in awhile. lol.
I warned him not to cross me and not to stand me up. Even after all
these years, he still hasn't learned how he SHOULD have handled this.
He loves the attention, Karen.
I know. I realize what/who I'm dealing with. Do I ignore him like I
did for years and let him keep baiting me with lies and abuse to give
him attention or do I stand up to him and kick his ass? I've never
dealt with a child who is having a tantrum but I think the right thing
to do is ignore them. It is my nature to "give them something to cry
about". But some people just can't LEARN that their behavior doesn't
work with their betters and they should try something else....

He's the adult version of the child
Post by Jose Gaspar
that willingly accepts a spanking in trade for attention.
I can't relate to that personally as I was just the opposite as a child.
But I DO know many children are like that. They are so desperate to be
noticed that they will accept pain and punishment rather than be
ignored. That's Gilmer. I would bet anything he was like this from
babyhood. He started controlling his mother as soon as he started
breathing air....and she just gave in to him, not knowing what else to
do. I think many psychopaths and narcissists are born that way and they
only get much stronger if their parents don't know how to deal with
them. My heart really goes out to Mrs. Gilmer. He's given her trouble
and worry for 52 years. I'm sure she tried everything she could but he
was her firstborn and baby son...in the end she just let him have his
way and then he was easy enough to live with. If she crossed him, he'd
dig in his heels and in the end she had to back off...and he went on his
way knowing how to keep the upper hand with her. He's that way with all
women. He told me enough about how he reacts to "nagging" for me to see
the light. He's irresponsible and never keeps his promises or does a
damn bit of work around home (and very little for his employer) and when
he's reminded or criticized at all for his failings, he turns on the
stubborn act and then he defiantly refuses what he should have been
responsible enough to do in the first place. His behavior toward others
is a form of tantrum all the time...

After
Post by Jose Gaspar
folks get to know John, they become nauseated by his behavior and
ignore him.
If he hadn't drug our personal business onto Usenet where he had an
audience, some support and LOTS of attention, I would have ignored him
in email many years ago. Most people who have dealt with him haven't
done it for years on the world stage.

Wherever he has gone, he's left a wake of destruction in
Post by Jose Gaspar
his path.
Absolutely. He's a damn train wreck and everybody near him gets caught
up in the ride. He's an EMOTIONAL VAMPIRE ....sucking the life and
spirit out of everybody (especially women) until they either fold up or
run away from him...leaving him in their house if necessary.

Soon he'll lose his bus and sell what few items he has
Post by Jose Gaspar
left and become homeless.
GOOD!!! I know he claims to fear being "homeless"....yet he's been on
the fast track to that destination almost as long as I've known
him....and it looks like he's taking Deb with him. But she's way
smarter and more ambitious than he is. The real estate market will come
back again and she knows how to sell houses. She got enough brains that
she can pull herself up again if only she would get rid of him....like
dragging around a ball and chain that never stops EATING and DRINKING.

Then he'll leave for Mexico with a few
Post by Jose Gaspar
thousand dollars in his pocket and drink himself to death.
Or end up in a Mexican Jail....I hear they are far less comfy than US
jails. ;') Best of all would be if somebody just bumped him off...

You can
Post by Jose Gaspar
take John Gilmer out of Kentucky but you can't take Kentucky out of
John Gilmer.
He's an insult to the majority of the good people who live in KY. He's
certainly an insult (and embarrassment) to his father and mother...and
sisters.
Post by Jose Gaspar
The same holds true with Ken Ehrett and Missouri.
Anybody I've known from Missouri was NOTHING like Ken. I'll bet he
picked up most of his "qualities" after he landed in Maryland.
Post by Jose Gaspar
Q: How can you tell the difference between a poor hillbilly and a rich
hillbilly?
A: A rich hillbilly has TWO cars jacked up in the front yard.
LOL.....I thought you were going to say that the rich hillbilly was
wearing LIPSTICK.

Few people on all of Usenet have been as abusive to others as Gilmer has
regarding politics and illegal immigration. Now it turns out he's NOT
going to vote in FL and he certainly hasn't registered in TX to
vote....in fact, he projected they'd likely be on the road heading to
Mexico around Election Day. Why do you suppose he is NOT going to vote?
He loves blacks (and Mexicans)...wouldn't he want to cast his vote to
help Obama? This could be a very historical election...he doesn't want
to add his voice?

Something tells me that John has a felony record and he is not ALLOWED
to vote. Now, that really is disgusting to me ... all his
self-righteous posturing about politics, government and world
affairs....yet he buys everything foreign that he can and can't even
VOTE. If they're looking for "Anti-Americans" I could point them toward
John Gilmer aka PirateJohn.
PyrateJohn
2008-10-23 11:00:28 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Lumpy and Gaspar and the various other nyms
Post by PyrateJohn
don't exist Karen, and everyone knows that.
Who is "everyone"?  
Well, for one, the kookologists that maintain the alt.usenet.kooks
site don't think that your nyms exist Karen. That's one reason why
they nominated you for various kook awards a month or two ago.

You should be proud of yourself. For once you accomplished something,
and the nominations gave you the recognition that you have craved for
years.

You are nuttier than bat shit Karen. Please go away. No one pays any
attention to you until you get depressed and go on these little snits
like you did this time when your nym attacked me and the Everett's,
That nonsense wasn't called for.

--PirateJohn--
http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com


Licensed and certified owner of the Karen "Kook" Anderson troll and
serial IRL stalker and her various circus nyms - including Jose
Gaspar, Lumpy, Team Karen, and a dozen anonymous remailers.

For information on Karen Anderson of Bremerton, Washington go to

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alfansome
2008-10-23 15:42:24 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Post by PyrateJohn
Lumpy and Gaspar and the various other nyms
Post by PyrateJohn
don't exist Karen, and everyone knows that.
Who is "everyone"?  
Well, for one, the kookologists that maintain the alt.usenet.kooks
site don't think that your nyms exist Karen.  That's one reason why
they nominated you for various kook awards a month or two ago.
You should be proud of yourself.  For once you accomplished something,
and the nominations gave you the recognition that you have craved for
years.
You are nuttier than bat shit Karen.  Please go away.  No one pays any
attention to you until you get depressed and go on these little snits
like you did this time when your nym attacked me and the Everett's,
That nonsense wasn't called for.
       --PirateJohn--http://www.PirateJohn.com
And the new blog athttp://pyratejohn.blogspot.com
Licensed and certified owner of the Karen "Kook" Anderson troll and
serial IRL stalker and her various circus nyms - including Jose
Gaspar, Lumpy, Team Karen, and a dozen anonymous remailers.
For information on Karen Anderson of Bremerton, Washington go to
http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Anderson1.htm
Why don't you guys take it outside? Its just tiresome. Nobody gives a
crap about who did what to whom.

Al
Karen
2008-10-24 06:56:19 UTC
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Post by PyrateJohn
Post by PyrateJohn
Lumpy and Gaspar and the various other nyms
Post by PyrateJohn
don't exist Karen, and everyone knows that.
Who is "everyone"?
Well, for one, the kookologists that maintain the alt.usenet.kooks
site don't think that your nyms exist Karen.
Oooo.....I am crushed, CRUSHED I tell ya .....

That's one reason why
Post by PyrateJohn
they nominated you for various kook awards a month or two ago.
I see I've won a few! I love it. They don't even read my posts or
know what is going on but they notice that I am SOMEBODY to be RECKONED
WITH because I kicked your fat ass six ways from Sunday and I OWN you,
PirateJohn Gilmer!! YeeHaw...!

I don't think any of your harem of wimmen has ever stood up to you and
those who tried, you beat them up, attacking their breasts (jealous
cause theirs were bigger than yours?)....

Since your "new friends" on AUK all use multiple nyms and so do you, why
would they be any kind of judges about who Lumpy and JoseGaspar are? No
wonder you are such a fuckin' MESS in life. You take the word of people
like that on Usenet as some kind of truth, fact and reality. I am not
posting as Jose or Lumpy and only a delusional IDIOT (that would be YOU)
could possibly conclude that I do. Jose sent you an email by accident
years back using his actual name, but you are so pitifully CLUELESS you
didn't notice then and can't REMEMBER now. One thing you never were in
your "illustrious career" was a DETECTIVE. Dumb as a Post....that's
you, Gilmar. And a laughing stock ....
Post by PyrateJohn
You should be proud of yourself. For once you accomplished something,
I am proud of myself...and I accomplish(ed) MANY things....few of which
you seem to be aware of...yet.
Post by PyrateJohn
and the nominations gave you the recognition that you have craved for
years.
They showed YOU that I kicked your ass to the curb. I have had more
"recognition" in my life than most women ever get. It's good to live
here now where I can go out and nobody knows me. I am a celebrity of
sorts because of what I've accomplished....unlike your infamy and
pathetic attempts to be a "self-made celebrity". Instead of living a
good life and letting "recognition" come to you naturally for your
deeds, you are a TOTAL fuck-up and failure in life but try to convince
strangers that you are somebody special...."spatial" is more like it.
You really are a sorry mess, but I am trying to stifle any feelings of
pity for you. Whatever happens to you....it won't be what you really
deserve for what you've done to other people. You bragged to me that
you try to have as much fun in life without hurting anybody. It's just
the opposite, isn't it? You hurt as many people as you can cause it's
FUN for you. That makes you a sadist and a manipulative and evil S.O.B.
Post by PyrateJohn
You are nuttier than bat shit Karen.
You have no defense anymore but to keep harping that I am "nutty, crazy,
insane". When you are bested by a man is that what you call him? In
your desperate attempts in the past 4+ years to destroy my credibility,
you overplayed your hand and ended up making yourself look like the pile
of shit that you are....and gave me the opportunity to BEST you with the
truth. You lost.
Post by PyrateJohn
Please go away.
Why should I? If you don't like the conditions now on Usenet, YOU GO
AWAY.

You are the one who has attacked and abused me with 95% of your posts in
the past 4.5 years and most of that time I never replied or defended
myself. Those days are OVER. You had your fun, but now you are a
pariah on all of Usenet where anybody recognizes you. Did it ever occur
to you to just GO AWAY? Or at least try to behave like a rational
person? I can do that...and I have for years. I have self-control and
brains. You have neither.

You don't want me to go away now anymore than you did when you first
wrote those words 4.5 years ago. What you want is for me to stop
kicking your fat ass and revealing the TRUTH about you. You want to
tell never-ending preposterous lies about me, but you don't want to pay
the price for your disgusting behavior. That's not how I operate.

Have you learned your lesson yet about what you did to me with that
debacle you pulled in FL? Do you ever know when to quit digging the
hole you are in? What did you accomplish? Are you better off now than
you were five years ago??? It is NOBODY's FAULT but your own. You are
a compulsive fuck-up.

No one pays any
Post by PyrateJohn
attention to you
That's what I want....unlike you. I post all the time and YOU don't
recognize me or know where I am.
Post by PyrateJohn
until you get depressed and go on these little snits
I'm not "depressed". You keep ATTACKING ME FIRST and now I'm going to
reply....but you just can't learn the error of your ways, can you?
Post by PyrateJohn
like you did this time when your nym attacked me
Jose Gaspar is NOT MY "NYM". Start with that and then deal with him as
an individual. Stop seeing KAREN in every word he writes...and
everything he does. I don't tell him what to say or do and I'm not
reponsible for what he does (tho I laugh my ass off and wish I could
think of all the things that he does). Was I responsible for what YOU
posted on alt.politics.immigration? I was appalled and attempted to get
you to stop (for your own good) but you haughtily informed me it was
something you had to do and ignored my advice...and where did that get
you? You claimed for YEARS that Hoodoo wasn't a real person but was one
of my "nyms", too. Where did THAT get you? You are one of the dumbest
people I've ever encountered.
Post by PyrateJohn
and the Everett's,
Huh? {rotflmao}
Post by PyrateJohn
That nonsense wasn't called for.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
See the irony.....
Post by PyrateJohn
Licensed and certified owner of PirateJohn GilmAr, idiot, troll and
serial IRL liar and netstalker and his various circus nyms - including
Ginger and
recent anonymous remailer maligning Erik.
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License #s:
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ZapRat
2008-10-24 10:19:25 UTC
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. �They don't even read my posts or
know what is going on but they notice that I am SOMEBODY to be RECKONED
WITH
Wasn't Queen of Denial one of the awards that you were nominated for?
Karen
2008-10-24 16:12:42 UTC
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Post by ZapRat
. ?They don't even read my posts or
know what is going on but they notice that I am SOMEBODY to be
RECKONED WITH
Wasn't Queen of Denial one of the awards that you were nominated for?
Nope. That would be .... YOU.

I was Drama Queen and Unabomber Surprise.

I guess you got a taste of my "Surprise" after all these years of
letting you dump all the abuse you wanted to on me. Revenge is sweet
and now you are going to get hammered right into the ground until you
learn to SHUT THE FUCK UP about me.

But you won't because you're into S&M. You LOVE the attention and that
you finally got me to "talk" to you again. I see you got Louise to talk
to you again, too....even if you did have to CORNER her to get her to
listen to you for a minute. How ya doing with "Rhonda Lou"? She
talkin' to you yet? After what you did to her, you're lucky she hasn't
killed you.

My, my....you're posting at 4 AM. Some hot sex life you've got going
with "Ms. Lovely" these days, eh? ROTLMAO....!!

I see you are asking for the war to start again with Hoodoo since you
are FORGING HIS CURRENT NYM now. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Post by ZapRat
Licensed and certified owner of PirateJohn GilmAr, idiot, troll and
serial IRL liar and netstalker and his various circus nyms - including
Ginger and recent anonymous remailer maligning Erik.
Texas State Highway Patrol
License #s:
Wanderlodge, Florida (Duval) C26 2RR
LandRover Discovery, Florida W19 DEP

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KAREN K. "BEAVERSHOT" ANDERSON
2008-10-24 22:33:15 UTC
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Post by ZapRat
Wasn't Queen of Denial one of the awards that you were nominated for?
Nope. >
I was Drama Queen and Unabomber Surprise.
Ah yes. Something to be proud of Karen. The Kookologists determined
that you were the Kook of the Month in those classifications. One has
to really work at being kooky to get that sort of award.

Should have been a lesson to you, Butterball.
But you won't because you're into S&M.  You LOVE the attention
Pointing out to other men that you are a serial stalker is a public
duty. You should never date again for the rest of your life. And as
far as finding another victim in newsgroups is concerned, I doubt that
you ever will.

Your snatch and vibrator photos, not to mention your stalking photos
of PJ's place tell worlds about you:

http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Anderson1.htm
Karen
2008-10-24 23:00:03 UTC
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"KAREN K. ....... ANDERSON"

Is this your parting post.....using my name? Quite revealing.

<yawn>

You might as well GIVE UP with me, John. I've kicked your ass to the
curb so many times that I almost feel sorry for you.

Almost.

Focus on David Carson since you are now going to be his permanent new
neighbor. Have you stalked him yet?

Maybe David can hire you since you claim to be a "computer geek" just
like he is....

Too funny .... ;'))
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Licensed and certified owner of PirateJohn GilmAr, idiot, troll and
serial IRL liar and netstalker and his various circus nyms - including
Ginger, forged Zaprat, and recent anonymous remailer maligning Erik.
For information on John Wesley Gilmer III (on the run to Mexico)
Texas State Highway Patrol
License #s:
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John Gilmer's blog 10/24/2008


"Barring anything unforeseen Deb and I plan to settle down in Houston
for a few years. Except to move our property out of Jacksonville, and
assuming that there isn't a hurricane in Florida that takes us back to
the state next year, I don't anticipate that we'll be back in Florida
any time soon.

I guess that when we get back from Mexico I'll have to consider the
unthinkable again - getting a job."
KAREN K. "BEAVERSHOT" ANDERSON
2008-10-24 23:34:18 UTC
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Just putting your latest whine into perspective,
Karen
2008-10-25 01:02:53 UTC
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Post by KAREN K. "BEAVERSHOT" ANDERSON
Just putting your latest whine into perspective,
You are a pathetic COWARD who has to post with my name as you slither
away. Everybody can see what you are now. You played right into my
hand, tho.... so thanks for that. Idiot.

Be sure to load up with lots of aspirin every day. <eg>

Buh-Bye, Johnny....don't let the door hit your fat ass on the way out.
Fuck-Up. Loser. Psychopath. Sweetheart Scammer. Thief.

See ya down the road, loser.
Post by KAREN K. "BEAVERSHOT" ANDERSON
Licensed and certified owner of PirateJohn GilmAr, idiot, troll and
serial IRL liar and netstalker and his various circus nyms - including
Ginger, forged Zaprat, "Beavershot" and recent anonymous remailer
maligning Erik.
For information on John Wesley Gilmer III (on the run to Mexico)
Texas State Highway Patrol
License #s:
Wanderlodge, Florida (Duval) C26 2RR
LandRover Discovery, Florida W19 DEP
BMW Sedan, Florida E15 1SY

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John Gilmer's blog 10/24/2008


"Barring anything unforeseen Deb and I plan to settle down in Houston
for a few years. Except to move our property out of Jacksonville, and
assuming that there isn't a hurricane in Florida that takes us back to
the state next year, I don't anticipate that we'll be back in Florida
any time soon.

I guess that when we get back from Mexico I'll have to consider the
unthinkable again - getting a job."
--
First of all, there is always a market for fiction. Witness Santa
Claus. (PirateJohn Gilmer 9-15-2008)
KAREN K. "BEAVERSHOT" ANDERSON
2008-10-25 18:25:31 UTC
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Just putting your latest whine into perspective Karen. You are an old
woman with a waistline somewhere north of 60" - so much for the
audacity that you have when you call anyone else fat ;)

More fundamentally, you have stalked at least five different guys that
didn't want to have anything to do with you, myself included. You ran
the same sorts of campaigns of misinformation and outright bullshit
against all of them. You have been nominated (and won!) Kook Awards
for being an outstanding Usenet kook, and the Keepers of the Kooks
found that not only were you kooky but that most of what you wrote was
false.

That pretty well sums up who you are Karen. Anyone that has any
dealings with you needs to be aware of who and what you really are.
Karen
2008-10-25 19:06:33 UTC
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The following from you is SOOO lame....but then I don't expect anything
better from a deadbeat loser who ran out of material many years ago...so
you just keeps repeating the same old lame crapola and hope somebody
somewhere will actually believe it. How many times have I pointedly
asked you to NAME NAMES of all these men supposedly "stalked"? You
can't. You just runs his mouth and grubby fingers.

You fit in well with the AUKers because you do the same as they
do....pass judgment and make claims about your betters with absolutely
NO proof or evidence. You might be impressed with their silly "awards"
but they mean diddly squat to normal people (that would not be YOU). Do
you actually believe I CARE what those clueless creeps and dweebs in
other countries think of me? My fight is/was with YOU and everyone (but
you) can see that I've kicked your ass raw. Plus, I countered YEARS of
your lying shit about me and it is archived on Google...just like your
shit is.

If I were you, I'd nuke all evidence of the near-2000 posts you made
including my home address. That kind of thing will be put before the
cops and a judge and how do you plan to defend yourself? That you were
"counseling me regarding suicide" (what a lame joke on your part) for
two years but you have since done all you can to harm me and encourage
others to do the same ... and worse? You are hoping to encourage
someone to kill me, right? You'd better hope instead that I live a long
life and die of OBVIOUSLY natural causes, otherwise your ass is
grass...think about that!

What in hell is wrong with you? Are you such an egomaniac and
narcissist that you think you're above man's laws....as well as God's?
I hope to live long enough to know that you died in agony and I will
travel wherever I have to to piss on your grave....if you actually end
up in one. I suspect you'll be tossed on a dung heap somewhere...that's
all your carcass is worth alive.

It's not just me that you've abused....there are many woman that you've
hurt FAR worse in their real lives...emotionally, physically,
financially. And it's partly for them that I stand up to you and expose
SOME of your misdeeds and rotten character. I am stifled in going after
you the way I really want to....but things change...so I very well might
"see you down the road". You just couldn't (and can't) leave well
enough alone, can you?

Why don't you tell me what it is that keeps you going with this,
refusing to see the writing on the wall...that you lost...and GIVE UP?
What do you want me to say or do? Spell it out...right here:
___________________________________ (and don't bother with juvenile
foolishness like "Please Go Away").

I'm waiting......
Post by KAREN K. "BEAVERSHOT" ANDERSON
Just putting your latest whine into perspective Karen. You are an old
woman with a waistline somewhere north of 60" - so much for the
audacity that you have when you call anyone else fat ;)
More fundamentally, you have stalked at least five different guys that
didn't want to have anything to do with you, myself included. You ran
the same sorts of campaigns of misinformation and outright bullshit
against all of them. You have been nominated (and won!) Kook Awards
for being an outstanding Usenet kook, and the Keepers of the Kooks
found that not only were you kooky but that most of what you wrote was
false.
That pretty well sums up who you are Karen. Anyone that has any
dealings with you needs to be aware of who and what you really are.
Lord Clump
2008-10-27 04:35:04 UTC
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Methings that Clueless and Kooky Karen has no idea how much she resembles
the Black Knight.

PyrateJohn
2008-10-23 04:12:47 UTC
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Hello Gilmar.  
Gilmer. G-I-L-M-E-R.
You posted on a gay ng, then when I caught you, you pretended you knew
nothing about it.  
Perhaps that's because I didn't know anything about it. You posted
that nonsense yourself.

Karen, honestly, sometimes you act like you don't know what you are
doing. Depression is a mental illness, but one has to wonder what
other mental illnesses you have suffered from over the years.


--PirateJohn--
http://www.PirateJohn.com

And the new blog at http://pyratejohn.blogspot.com


Licensed and certified owner of the Karen "Kook" Anderson troll and
serial IRL stalker and her various circus nyms - including Jose
Gaspar, Lumpy, Team Karen, and a dozen anonymous remailers.

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